Thursday, June 19, 2014

The Endocrine Society Guideline on pheo

The Endocrine Society, the world's largest scholarly society on endocrine diseases, just released its clinical practice guideline on pheo and para (http://www.endocrine.org/education-and-practice-management/clinical-practice-guidelines). The writing committee includes leading international experts on pheo and para.

Before the publication of this guideline, the North American Neuroendocrine Tumor Society (NANETS) published a guideline in 2010, and the First International Symposium on pheo published another guideline in 2007. The authors of the 3 guidelines overlap significantly. I am very familiar with the two previous guidelines.


I have read the new guideline in detail and am pleased to find that some of my own work is cited. Overall, the Guideline is thoughtful, up-to-date, succinct, and clear. I congratulate the writing committee on its completing such a wonderful piece. It has 6 parts: biochemical testing, imaging, genetic testing, perioperative management, surgery, and personalized approach. The Guideline is a great resource for physicians and patients. If the Guideline is followed, the majority of clinical scenarios will be covered very well and the clinical decisions will be correct most of the times. For non-specialists, the Guideline is a great resource for decision making regarding pheo.


I like the Guideline so much that I cannot think of almost anything that I have to change if I had been involved in the writing. As a pheo specialist, I do find a few places in the Guideline where some discussions are worthwhile. You can call me nitpicker but you will see why the following issues can actually matter in clinical practice.


Table 1. I would add heart problems without clear causes as another indication for testing. Over 10% of patients with pheo present with cardiovascular complications. Most patients with heart disease, indeed, do not have pheo, but those without clear common causes should be tested for pheo. For example, most patients with heart failure do not have pheo and pheo testing is not needed if a clear cause such as severe coronary heart disease is present. A young patient with heart failure of unknown (“idiopathic”) causes, however, should be tested for pheo. Pheo-induced cardiomyopathy is reversible upon pheo removal so that it is worthwhile to test for pheo in patients with heart problems without clear causes.


1.4. “All positive results require follow-up.” This recommendation is not incorrect but deserves some comments. In real world, most positive results are false alarms. In my experience, more than 50% of patients with positive results can be safely reassured that they don’t have pheo and further testing is not needed. A common example is an elderly patient with hard-to-control hypertension who has a slight elevation of pheo test results. I would be very comfortable in telling the patient that further testing for pheo is not needed. The Guideline goes on to say that the ways of follow-up should be determined by the pre-test probability and by clinical judgment, and that clinical follow-up (i.e. without further testing or imaging) is appropriate in select cases.


4.2. “We recommend preoperative medical treatment for 7 to 14 days to allow adequate time to normalize blood pressure and heart rate.” This recommendation is the only one that I have serious issues with. 1) This recommendation assumes that all pheos are the same and gives a general recommendation without considering the individual perioperative risks of each pheo. An incidentally found 1-cm pheo and a 7-cm pheo causing cardiac arrest are certainly different and should be prepared differently. 2) It perpetuates a long-held but likely incorrect notion that the goal of preoperative preparation is to normalize blood pressure and heart rate. Not uncommonly, patients with very active pheos have normal blood pressure and heart rate. An un-experienced doctor may feel that preoperative preparation is not needed because those patients already “achieve” the goals of preoperative preparation. Normal blood pressure and heart rate are important before operation but they should not be the goals of preoperative preparation. The real goal should be to revert or prevent pheo-induced cardiomyopathy.


A major challenge in writing clinical guidelines is to make balanced recommendations covering both common and uncommon clinical situations. A guideline will become too long and cumbersome if it tries to cover all situations. The Endocrine Society Guideline on pheo did a great job in balancing the common and uncommon situations. When we read guidelines, we should bear in mind that they are intended as “guidelines” and it is up to us to apply the guidelines to each unique patient. In other words, the physicians and patients should make the final clinical decisions, using the guidelines as a reference but not the only reference. Clinical experience and literature review are perhaps more important than following guidelines. As the Endocrine Society Guideline on pheo emphasizes, a multi-disciplinary team on pheo is the key to optimal pheo diagnosis and management.


Dr. Pheo


48 comments:

  1. Hi there, my husband was involved in a bicycle accident and during the CT for his mangled pelvis they found an 8cm pheo. He had an MIBG which also showed bone lesions. Could you school us on these lesions? What exactly are they? Active or dormant? Separate small pheos all over the bones? Could the trauma from the bone fractures in his pelvis create any false positives on the scan? Could any movement during the MIBG scan cause a false reading? Do these continue to grow and eventually become active pheos? So many questions, just looking for a dummied down explanation. Any help that you could provide would be much appreciated.

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  2. How old is your husband?

    Dr. Pheo

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  3. Hi Dr. Pheo

    I know someone with inoperable metastatic pheo, being treated with metyrosine. How often do you see tremor associated with this drug? I saw the figure of 10% patients having extrapyramidal symptoms. Do you think a low-ish dose of 250 mg BID is enough to cause symptoms?

    Thank you

    HM

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    1. Dear HM,

      Even lower dose can possibly cause tremor.

      Dr. Pheo

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  4. Dr. Pheo
    Recently diagnosed with paraganglioma - jugulare extending into ear. local ENT and ENDOmhave NO exp with this disease. Referred me to research facilities. I have a consultation appt. Scheduled at Stanford and AZ Mayo (not MN). Found ur blog, and was reading posts/replays and someone mentioned you have a Drf. List. Where do I find ur Dr./surgeon lis

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  5. Sorry for the typos... Looking for your rec. Dr. List.

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    1. Dear Denise,

      The post is on TUESDAY, APRIL 28, 2009.

      Dr. Pheo

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  6. Dr. Pheo,
    Thank you very much, I must have missed it. Thought I read every entry. trying to gain all the info. I can. I am correct to say, that pheo and paras are the same except location? I have found a lot more info on phenols than paras. Mostly in the Dr. Recommendations.

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  7. Dear Dr. Pheo,

    We have been to several doctors and they are all trying to "rule out pheo." My 12 year old started with high blood pressure. She is currently on meds that have it controlled but it is odd for her to need meds (thin, active soccer player, decent diet). She has had a kidney duplex ultrasound and a MRA that did not show anything. She has had elevated 24 hour urine tests twice and one elevated plasma test. The first VMA was 7.6 (range is less than 3.4) and the second was 4.7. They were about a month apart. The hormones have been out of range but docs say "elevated" not "high" - example epinephrine range 0 to 8 and hers was 18 the first time and 14 the second time. Nor-epinephrine range 5 to 50 and hers was 47 the first time and 59 the second time. After the plasma came back elevated - range was 0 to .90 and hers is 1.08 they ordered a MIBG scan. The scan showed an area of "uptake" below the liver on the right side. What is below the liver and is there anything else that shows uptake other than tumors. Doctor says she doesn't suspect it's something but ordered MRI. "Do a different test" has been the answer each step of the way. Are these types of labs common for a 12 year old? is there anywhere to go and get a quicker answer to these issues? No idea what to prepare myself for. Any suggestions/information you have will be appreciated.

    Thank you!

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    1. Dear Samantha,

      I don't have much experience with children. Her pheo markers levels are indeed elevated as children have a lower normal reference value. The uptake under the liver usually refers to the right adrenal gland. Overall her likelihood of having pheo is not very high. Dr. Pacak at the National Institute of Health has a large experience diagnosing or "ruling out" pheo in children.

      Dr. Pheo

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  8. Thanks for responding. What else causes elevated hormone levels like that? No one has given us an alternative to consider.

    Samantha

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    1. Dear Samantha,

      Mildly elevated pheo markers can be seen in patients with hypertension by any cause.

      Dr. Pheo

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  9. Dear Dr Pheo

    I am a long suffering patient from India,46M,with suspected pheo but no real answers and diagnosis:

    Details:
    Medical history:

    Hot flushes,high pulse rate (84-96 p.m.),low grade fever,palpitation,light headedness,feeling of sense of doom,hypertension,panic attacks, recurrent anal fissures discharging pus,fistula.

    Consulted an endocrinolist at Apollo hospitals,Kolkata,who recommended 24 urinary catecholimes test,followed by CT scan whole abdomen,and an MIBG.

    All these were negative,apart from elevated catecholamines levels in 24 urinary test.

    Then went on to do the Gallium Dotanov PET scan at AIIMS,along with plasma free met/Nor Met blood tests at Metropolis,Mumbai.

    Doctors consulted: Dr Subir Ray(Endo-Apollo),Dr Nalini Shah(Endo-Mumbai),Endo dept at AIIMS,Delhi.

    Current medication : Telma 40 OD,Aspirin 50 mg OD,Atorsave D 40 OD.

    Synopsis

    Test Results
    24 hours urinary Catecholamines ++ Noredranalin elevated 199(normal range upto 90), Adrenalin normal
    CT Scan whole abdomen - Normal study
    Blood tests + Urea/Cr normal,lipid profile high,HbAIC 7.2%%, TFT normal
    MIBG Test - Normal study
    PET Galluim scan(AIIMS)

    Plsma free Metanephine/nor metanephrine test ( Mumbai)(repeated)

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    -
    Normal study

    Normal study








    My tests are largely negative,apart from raised Nor ad values.But the symptoms/problems remains.

    If I do not have a pheochrycytoma/PGL,then whats the differential diagnosis.

    The AIIMS doctors want to start beta blockers,but I remain fearful of an anti hypertensive attack.

    The endo at AIIMS also suggested I take a consultation for Koch’s disease,since I have a recurrent problem of piles and fistula,along with a low grade fever.

    Regards

    Ashit Narain
    9830006010

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  10. Dear Ashit,

    You unlikely have pheo. Please read my earlier post in 2009 and 2010 about other causes of pheo symptoms.

    Dr. Pheo

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  11. 4 years ago when I was 27 I developed a rapid heart rate and high blood pressure along with some other symptoms after an anthrax vaccine. The drs are now calling it severe maligmant resistant hypertension. In 2011 I also had surgery for cervical spondylosis in my c5-c6 with a fusion and cage. Since 2010 I've also had daily headaches, constant sweating, episodes of tremors, flushing or turning white, and my bp/hr jump into ranges well in the 200s-with the frequency of these episodes getting more frequent the last couple years. My baseline bp and hr have also been getting worse over the last few years jumping up and despite aggressive medication treatment it's not staying in control. The drs have tested for pheochromocytoma with some tests being 2-3times the normal range and others borderline high. MRI, CT scan, MIBG, and PET scan have all been negative with one showing swollen adrenal lymph nodes. I'm on 2 .3 Clonidine patches, 480mg diltiazem 100mg losartin and 75mg eplerinone to try keeping my bp and Heart rate down. Certain foods, exercise, alcohol, stress, emotions, and noticed serotonin medications trigger my bp to spike even higher. I've never been one to have anxiety and my personality I'm extremely mellow and calm. I did years of martial arts and before 2010 was in excellent health. My drs still think it's a phepheochromocytoma even though the scans have not shown anything. What would you suggest doing and until a reason is found causing the symptoms and how to keep the bp under control?

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    1. Dear Anonymous,

      You unlikely have pheo. With your severe symptoms, if you do have pheo, the mark levels should be much higher than yours. The negative imaging also makes pheo unlikely. The differential diagnoses are pretty wide. The best approach probably is to find a cardiologist or neurologist with expertise on the sympathetic nervous system.

      Dr. Pheo

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  12. In Recommendation 1.3 of the Guidelines, it states that the Plasma Metanephrines blood draw should be taken in the supine position. I have MEN2a and have only had this test taken in the seated position. Is this ok until levels are elevated?

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    1. Dear Anonymous,

      The plasma metanephrine levels are slightly higher at sitting than supine. The small difference usually does not have a clinical meaning. I would not worry about it.

      Dr. Pheo

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  13. Hello

    I recently got diagnosed with a Pheo and it was successfully removed on the 18th of August. First of all im a 22 year old, white, male from South Africa. Ive done "a lot" of research and most of the things i find mostly have to do with preparing for surgery for example all the Alpha and Beta blockers and things like that.

    My main question is i've seen my doctor/surgeon for a 2 week after the surgery check up and he removed the staples and said everything is looking good, i had a open adrenalectomy the Tumor was 8cm*9cm*9cm. I had no real previous symptoms apart from abdominal discomfort when lying down on my side maybe more than usual headaches, But back to the question, my next appointment is on the 3rd of December only, and ive had no tests done after the surgery. So my question is should i be concerned that no additional tests are being done, for example to know if it is genetic? or just test to check hormone levels now that i only have 1 adrenal gland? Or is it perfectly normal to wait a couple of months after surgery before tests are done.

    Im sure my doctor is knowledgeable however i don't know how much is known about Pheo's in South Africa.

    One last question i know growth rates are not really known but how long as a guess would you say it has been growing?

    Thank you for running this blog and giving us the chance to ask questions. It is very much appreciated.

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    1. Dear Pierre,

      I recommend re-measuring the pheo markers 1-2 months after the operation. You likely have a gene mutation that made you develop this pheo so genetic testing is recommended if your insurance pays for it. You probably had had this tumor for many years.

      Dr. Pheo

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  14. Hi Doctor, I had my right adrenal surgically removed for a pheo. I am 30 years old and here are a few questions I have:
    1. After the surgery, the tests were redone in about 20 days and they came out fine. I have been monitoring my blood pressure and it seems to be going well too. Would you suggest I have another series of tests. My endocrinologist has only advised me to get the tests done again in a year.
    2. Even before the surgery and for a long time now, I have this lump at the back of my neck. Knowing of the pheo, it now worries me if this could be an extra adrenal pheo. I can feel the lump but it doesn't hurt or cause me any discomfort.
    3. For the last couple of days, I have been feeling slight pain on the left side of my stomach, just under the ribs. It is not a nagging pain, but just a slight pain that comes and goes occasionally. Is it something I should be worried about?

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  15. Hi Doctor, I had my right adrenal surgically removed for a pheo. I am 30 years old and here are a few questions I have:
    1. After the surgery, the tests were redone in about 20 days and they came out fine. I have been monitoring my blood pressure and it seems to be going well too. Would you suggest I have another series of tests. My endocrinologist has only advised me to get the tests done again in a year.
    2. Even before the surgery and for a long time now, I have this lump at the back of my neck. Knowing of the pheo, it now worries me if this could be an extra adrenal pheo. I can feel the lump but it doesn't hurt or cause me any discomfort.
    3. For the last couple of days, I have been feeling slight pain on the left side of my stomach, just under the ribs. It is not a nagging pain, but just a slight pain that comes and goes occasionally. Is it something I should be worried about?

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    1. Dear Neha,

      1. Pheo testing in another year is correct.
      2. The neck lump is concerning. It should be examined by imaging to see if it is an extra-adrenal paraganglioma. As you are young, the chance of having a gene mutation is high and risk of having a neck paraganglioma is also high.
      3. The pain is hard to decipher.

      Dr. Pheo

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    2. Dear Dr Pheo,

      Thank you for the advise. I have had my genetic testing done for the sdhg gene mutations and it has come out negative. The genetisist has now recommended an RET and VHL test. Should I still be worried about a paraganglioma? Also considering my post operative tests came out fine and the bump on the back of my neck has been present for the last couple of years, would you still think its a paraganglioma?
      Lastly, while getting the bump scanned, would u also recommend I get the left side of my stomach scanned again? The scans previously came out fine but do you think a pheo can grow on the other adrenal gland that quickly?

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    3. Dear Neha,

      1. The neck mass can still be a para so I still recommend imaging by CT or MRI.
      2. Adrenal pheo recurrence is usually very slow.

      Dr. Pheo

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  16. I had a question that I was hoping you might be able to help with. I'm having blood drawn on Friday for (among a few other things) metanephrine to look for a pheo. I've been off basically all my meds to get ready for the blood tests. Yesterday I finally broke down and took around 10mg of Toprol XL to try to bring my heart rate down just a little because I felt so awful. Is this going to impact the test results?

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  17. Dr. Pheo,
    I am a 49-year-old female who is being evaluated for a Pheo. I have had a 24 hour urine, echo, halter monitor, multiple blood test and I am schedule to follow up with my cardiologist soon. My Free T4 was (mildly high). My glucose was high for the first time in my life. I have tachycardia with PVCs that randomly increases even while I am at rest. I have unexplained anxiety, hot flashes, diarrhea (uncontrollable at times), sweats, nausea, and extreme fatigue at times. I also have right upper quadrant pain that is extreme at times; my gallbladder was removed years ago. My primary care doctor monitored my heart rate and O2 while walking. My O2 dropped to 80% and my heart rate was 150. At that time I had chest pain/ tightness and fatigue. My Echo was normal. These symptoms are debilitating. My blood pressure is with in normal limits. Something is wrong, and I need answers.

    I had a 24-hour urine. My results:
    Norepinephrine: 61 ug/g and my
    Creatinine: 1600mg/d,
    Norepinephrine ug/g crt was high at 61ug/g

    The nurse also indicated the results may not be valid.
    I take Fetzima for depression.
    Can this interfere with the 24-hour urine results?
    Also could the Fetzima cause these symptoms?
    Also could you explain the (Norepinephrine ug/g crt was high at 61ug/g) lab result?

    Thank you,
    Jan

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    1. Dear Jan,

      What is the normal reference range of norepinephrine in ug/g at that laboratory?

      Dr. Pheo

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    2. Dr. Pheo,
      The range for the norepinephrine in ug/g is 0 - 45 at the laboratory.
      Thank you,
      Jan

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    3. Dear Jan,

      I don't know if Fetzima can cause your symptoms but Fetzima could cause falsely elevated urine norepinephrine levels. Overall the likelihood of pheo does not appear high.

      Dr. Pheo

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  18. Dear Dr Pheo
    I was diagnosed with paraganglioma with SDHC gene mutation in May 2014 after having a pharyngeal space tumor removed. The pathology showed retained SDHB staining. MRI of the chest, abdomen and pelvis were normal in December 2014. Plasma free blood in January 2015 Normetanephrine was 1.31. My genetic doctor told me to repeat in May (it was 1.01). Urine was negative. My symptoms are frequent sweaty episodes with fast heart beat and pounding headache. My genetic doctor told me to follow up in a year with her. I'm not sure if I should if I show see another physician for the symptoms I'm having.

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  19. Dear Joann,

    Please provide your age. Regardless of your age, I agree it will be a good idea to see another doctor for the symptoms.

    Dr. Pheo

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  20. Dear Dr. Pheo,

    I am a 49 yo medical resident (yes, you read that right!) PGY3, previously healthy with no chronic conditions except for well controlled hypothyroidism.

    Since my first "attack" in early March, which I thought was an allergic reaction with tachycardia, tightness/subjective neck swelling, and difficulty swallowing following a meal containing edamame, I've progressed to 2-4 discrete episodes per week during which there is sweating, tachycardia (120-140s), hypertension (150-200/110-123), headaches/neck pain, and pallor for periods of 15 to 45 minutes. In between episodes, I'm fine - hemodynamically stable and normotensive although my normotense periods seem to be decreasing.

    Testing has revealed elevated urine normetanephrines 509 (collected after 3 asymptomatic days) and 697 (collected in period with an attack) with upper limit of normal at 450. Total urine metanephrines were also elevated (<561 ULN) at 607 (asymptomatic) and 831 (symptomatic). Plasma normetanephrines were elevated at .97 with an upper limit of normal of .9 collected while asymptomatic. All testing performed at Mayo labs.

    Seven day event monitoring showed repeated episodes of sinus tachycardia occurring even at night while I was sleeping, interspersed with episodes of bradycardia. I was placed on amlodipine 10 mg daily with no change in symptoms. I've had one elevated troponin which resolved but otherwise, my labs (TSH, T4, 5-HIAA, Tryptase, CBC, CMP, ESR, CRP, Ferritin) have been normal with an occasional mild elevation in my creatinine from .8 up to 1.1, which I believe was associated with dehydration. Renin elevated, aldosterone pending, and I just finished a 24 hour blood pressure monitor. I have a cardiology appointment for next week.

    My endocrinologist indicates that despite the elevations seen in the normetanephrines, because they were not two times ULN this "essentially rules out" pheochromocytoma. I asked about repeat testing, but he feels this is unnecessary.

    I'm frustrated because I've gone from a normal healthy person to someone who never knows when one of these attacks will strike. Had I not had a witnessed attack at work (where they MADE me go to the ED despite me saying that I was fine and the episode would pass) I wouldn't care, but now I'm restricted from the OR until they "figure out what's wrong with me." I know pheos are rare. But I have had 3 separate tests ALL with elevations of normetanephrines. And no alternative diagnosis. And a persistence of symptoms.

    Am I crazy or do I need to seek out another endocrinologist?

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    1. Dear Missy,

      It's never too late to get into residency. I agree with your endo that pheo is very unlikely. When pheo causes similar symptoms you have, the marker levels are way higher than yours. Best wishes on your residency.

      Dr. Pheo

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  21. Hi Dr Pheo. Can you please advise of Pheo specialist in the Texas area. I am also curious if my very high DHEA and Pheo could be related? Thank you.

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  22. Also, I meant to ask. I have an appt. to get tested next week. On top of HBP and a horrible racing heart my anxiety is out of control! I haven't slept in two days. It's almost like I have ran a race and the adrenaline is sky high and will not allow me. What would you suggest works if I am to have Pheo? I know beta blockers are scary for someone with Pheo, curious about Xanax or Ativan? Does Xanax or Ativan work well with people with Pheo? I took a half of a .25 dose and it sent my BP way up? Maybe just a coincidence?

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    1. Dear Curious,

      Dr. Camilo Jimenez at MD Anderson Cancer Center is a pheo specialist. I am not aware that Xanax or Ativan cannot be used.

      Dr. Pheo

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  23. Dr. Pheo,

    Do you have an updated list of pheo doctors that you recommend for Florida? I read your April 28,2009 list. It seems that Dr. Kvols is no longer at Moffit and I cannot find where he is practicing.

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    1. Dear Anonymous,

      Dr. Kvols has retired. I am not aware of a pheo specialist in Florida. The larger Unversity hospitals in Florida should have physicians experienced in pheo.

      Dr. Pheo

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  24. January 19th 2017
    Dr Pheo,
    I am writing to ask your professional opinion about the 24 hour urine collection for metanephrines.
    I have a 13 year history with all the signs and symptoms of pheochromocytoma, I do not have the diagnosis.
    I am presently in the middle of an episode with signs of Pheo I started a 24 hour urine collection today. My doctor called and said to stopp as I am presently tapering off Venflafaxine 37 msg daily. He feels the test will not be accurate due to this medication in my system.
    When I entered the emergency room five nights ago I was diagnosed with transient altered mental changes and acute UTI and no testing was done for Pheo.
    My journey this far has been extremely frustrating with the medical profession and I'm reaching out to you for your advice as where to go next.
    The treatment I am presently doing to mask my symptoms is atenolol 100 mgs daily and Depakote 500 mg twice daily.
    I am presently on FMLA from my job as a nurse in the hospital.
    I am willing to go anywhere to get proper testing for my episodes.
    My family physician is excellent and has been with me on the journey for approximately 10 years and also believes that my diagnosis should be pheocytochroma.
    I thank you for taking the time to read this text and I'm awaiting your advice. I have not thrown out the 24 hour urine collection yet as I would like to hear your opinion first sincerely,

    Laura in SE Iowa




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  25. I also recently was diagnosed with hyperparathyroidism and elevated liver enzymes. Have insomnia due to high levels of adrenaline brought on by my episodes.
    Persistent headache, nausea, no appetie, OSA,enlarged thyroid.
    Does all the testing have to be done when I have the severe symptoms?
    Can any be done now, or will this venalaflaxine alter all the Disgnostic tests for it?
    Laura

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  26. I did complete the 24 hour urine collection for metanephrines. It is in my fridge, and I should bring it to the hospital today. Except for the fact my doctor feels it will not be accurate because of the generic Effexor in my system.
    Please when you read this do not think I am crazy.
    I just need a diagnosis to the symptoms that I have which appear to correlate with Pheo.
    Thanks
    Laura

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  27. Why am I not getting a reply? Do I need to do something different
    Please let me know
    24 hr urine is still in the fridge since 1/20/17
    Can I send it in even I am taking generic Effexor?
    I will be tapered off in 2 weeks, can I do it even if u am not symptomatic?
    Laura

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    1. Dear Laura,

      The urine sample should be fine to be used. On the other hand, plasma metanephrines are the best test for pheo. Effexor may raise the metanephrines levels slightly but not a lot in either urine or blood samples.

      Dr. Pheo

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  28. Hello Dr. Pheo,
    I was ready to leave on vacation, the night prior I had a pain in my left flank that got so bad I was doubling over. Went to the ER, and after I gave them a urine sample the pain subsided and never returned. Drs figured it was a kidney stone. All labs were normal.
    Left on vacation the next day. Had some minor neck pain that would become a headache (tension type). The headache would become somewhat worse daily. I found tylenol would give some relief and was taking 1000mg several times a day. Im very healthy, never had BP issues, no diabetes, just have increased cholesterol. Thought I had a sinus infection. We were in Europe. The headaches continued to get worse and I saw a Dr. who prescribed antibiotics and a nasal spray. No relief and the headaches turned into migraines. We cut the trip short, and flew home. The trip home I was in constant pain, my breathing was poor and I was clammy and flush. Went right to the ER and found my bp to be 235/137. Took 3 visits to ER and 4 BP meds to normalize my BP and Im taking 500mg of Gabapentin for the headaches.

    Blood Work: First visit to ER was 4/30
    4/30 Urine keytones were high 5mg/dl.
    5/5 Plasma Metanepherines were 77pg/nl (12-67 range)
    5/5 Plasma Normetanepherines 163 pg/nl (18-101 range).
    5/6 Urine Metanepherines 197ug/g (0-227 ug/g range)
    5/6 Urine Normetanepherines 346 ug/g (100-450 ug/g range)
    5/6 Urine Total Metanepherines 543 ug/g (100-677 ug/g range)
    5/22 Plasma Metanepherines .34nmol (<50 nmol range)
    5/22 Normetanepherine .95nmol (<90 nmol range),Normets were still high.
    5/30 Urine Metanepherine 179mcg/24hr (44-261 range)
    5/30 Urine Norephinepherine 42mcg/24hr (15-80 range)
    5/30 Urine Normetanepherine 470mcg/24hr (138-521 range)
    5/30 Urine Total Metanepherines 649mcg/24hr (233-716 range)
    5/30 CT Scan w/o contrast of my adrenals was negative.
    What do you think? Do you think I could possibly have a extra-adrenal pheo?
    Thank you, I so appreciate your input.

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  29. Dear Anonymous,

    Pheo is ruled out by the test results.

    Dr. Pheo

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