Friday, April 3, 2009

Screening for mutations: in whom, and how?

Thank you again, Foxy, for asking an intriguing question on screening for gene mutations that cause pheochromocytoma. As this is a question of general interest, I put it as a new topic.

The chemicals a tumor produces do not tell much about whether the tumor is likely caused by a known mutation. Pheochromocytomas in MENII usually produce epinephrine, while those in VHL usually make norepinephrine. And in general, most pheochromocytomas tend to make norepinephrine, with or without mutations. Extra-adrenal pheochromocytomas (called paragangliomas) in familial paraganglioma (SDH mutations) and in Carney's triad (unknown gene mutations) may not produce catecholamines. Although these patterns of catecholamine secretion exist, they do not help in determining whether a patient should be screened.

Neither does tumor size or patient sex.

Some other clinical parameters do help. 1) Positive family history certainly suggests familial pheochromocytoma. 2) Age. The younger (<50), the more likely a patient has mutations causing pheochromocytoma. 3) Multifocal pheochromocytomas suggest mutations. 4) Signs of genetic syndromes. For example, a patient may already have meduallary thyroid carcinoma. If a patient has any of these, then genetic testing has higher yield.

Should any patient with pheochromocytoma be screened? At last year's International Symposium on Pheochromocytoma (ISP 2008, Cambridge, UK) which I attended, this topic was lively debated and the arguments were divided at the Atlantic Ocean. The European doctors seem to root for testing everyone as the tests are covered by either insurance or research centers. American doctors are more hesitant. No insurance companies in America I know cover genetic testing of pheochromocytoma in a patient without family history. A few American centers do offer testing in a research setting but the patients have to enter a trial of some sort. It can cost a patient thousands of dollars to do all the commercially available tests.

The other issue is which gene(s) to test first. Six (6) genes are known to cause pheochromocytoma: RET, VHL, NF1, SDHB, SDHD, and SDHC. Clinical history provides some help. Bilateral pheos: RET and VHL first. Extra-adrenal pheos: SDHB, SDHD, and VHL first. The hit rate is not very high even with these clinical history-based strategy. Above all, only 30% of patients without family history really have a mutation known to cause pheochromocytoma.

In my own practice, I highly encourage patients with family history to test for mutations. In those without family history, I explain the above and let them decide. Most patients without family history elect not to do genetic testing. They are followed clinically and by tests and imaging. It is unfortunate that genetic testing even in patients with family history are still not covered by insurance in many instances.

24 comments:

  1. Not meaning to stray from pheos and turn this more into a gene/mutation talk, but I thought I read somewhere a new study stating that one of the SDH mutations may have a higher chance for pheos to recur, is that true? and do other mutations such as MEN or VHL have different recurrence rates? (are there enough cases out there to even have statistics on those?)

    Also, for those with unknown gene mutations, what would be the benefit of getting genetic testing done? (besides helping the researchers figure out what mutation is cauing the illness) Are there cases with a known mutation, like SDH, in Carney Triad patients?

    Sorry I have a curious mind... ^.^ but thanks again for all this information!

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  2. The genotype-phenotype correlation is rather good for MENII. So a certain mutation of RET gene carries a certain risk of recurrence. VHL pheos tend to recur in general. SDH mutations are being studied. Although I am not aware of the specific study you descibe, I won't be surprised that certain SDH mutations are worse than others.

    Currently only the 6 genes are known to cause the majority of pheos. Other genes are implicated but clinically they are not significant yet. Only by testing the 6 genes one by one, will doctors know if the patients has any mutations on the 6 genes. There is no genetic test for Carney's triad.

    For the 70% or so patients without mutations in known genes, these patients certainly have mutations in some genes. Most tumors or cancers are caused by mutations. We just don't know if each of them has a unique gene mutation or share some. Large scale genetic studies are needed.

    Dr. Pheo

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  3. My son (21) has had two tumors this year. One on the abdominal aorta and one near the spine. There is no family historyb but ou insurance did cover the gene test. It was positive for SDHB. Do you know how often my son should have the blood screening now?

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  4. Blood tests every year and imaging every two years.

    Dr. Pheo

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  5. Had pheo few cells no tumor on left adreanl removed. MIBG lit up both adreanl extreme on left tumor at time right. Adrenal sampling same as Mibg Had test 07 plasma free normal 24 hr urine little high, normetanephrine. MRI slight hyperplasia of right adrenal.Having problem again 2009 plasma free slightly elevated normetanephrine. What gene test do you think would be best for me? No family history.

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  6. I cannot understand your second sentence. I doubt you have pheo at the first place. Tell me your age, sex, why pheo was suspected, and when the left adrenal was removed. Please do not write any other personal information besides those. Based on what you wrote, it is unlikely you have pheo, but the additional information will help.

    Dr. Pheo

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  7. Female, 58, had pheo symptoms for 10 years,prior to having left adrenal out 05. Lab for urine and blood sampling were high also my scans all pointed to pheo. If it is not pheo what do you think it could be?

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  8. False postive urine or blood test results are rather common. The MIBG scan is a localizing test but not a diagnosing one, and in some people without pheo, there is asymetric uptake, giving it an appearance of a tumor not really there. Because the pathology of left adrenal does not see pheo and you only have slightly elevated markers now, you most likely did not have pheo then in 2005.

    The most common conditions that give elevated pheo markers are laboratory errors, essential hypertension, medication interferece, and sleep apnea.

    To see whether you have pheo now, you may benefit from a clonidine suppresion test or you can follow the pheo markers periodically. An MIBG scan is not useful before those. I can predict that there will be some uptake on your right adrenal (the uptake just means your right adrenal is functioning, as expected).

    Dr. Pheo

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  9. Thanks but I am confused, besides the clonidine suppresion test what other tests would you do to check for pheo to get positive results ?
    With all the symptoms that I have suffered as they have come strong for 2 months and now eased up. When these episodes come on and linger is awfull you can't function.
    Because I will be going in for more testing to see what is up and I don't want to give up my adrenal if I really don't have a pheo.
    You cold understand that but need to get to the bottom of the problem.

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  10. An important point is that the pheo symptoms are not specific to pheo. Other diseases can cause pheo symptoms. The clonidine suppression test will tell whether you have pheo. If you have pheo, then you do imaging studies. If you don't have pheo, you may have other diseases.

    As a pheo specialist, it is relatively easy for me to diagnose if a patient has pheo or not. What is not easy is what causes the symptoms if the patient does not have pheo. In my practice, I refer the patient to an experienced internal medicine doctor if I conclude that she/he does not have pheo. I then ask the other doctor to look for other diseases. A teanm-approach is needed.

    A pheo specialist knows a lot more about pheo but probably knows less on other diseases.

    Dr. Pheo

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  11. Again thanks I will get the clonidine test, whats the best imaging test to look for a pheo?

    You have made me very aware that I may not have a pheo at all and it is something else and I have worked with very good Drs.
    But what about all the tests especially adreanl sampling which was really high?


    You know its so hard to find the right Drs to get to the pheo land even go beyond that I have to know alot about it. which I am educating myself on.

    People complain about little things to have things that go on in a body that is not well known,takes certain people to go far and find the best Drs that are interested in these problems.
    If you were around my area I would come and see you. Thanks for you help any info will do.

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  12. The imaging studies are only good at finding a pheo but not diagnosing a pheo. If the clonidine suppression test shows you don't have pheo, then you don't need to do imaging.

    Because the adrenal glands produce catecholamines, the adrenal sampling will always show very high levels, even in people without pheo. And the two adrenal glands are not always similar so it is common that one side produces more catecholamines.

    In my opinion, adrenal sampling is an outdated test and should not be done in patients without adrenal tumors.

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  13. Dr. Pheo, the SDHB gene test have shown that my father, myself, my son, my daughter and my sister all have the gene. Waiting on other family members. My son has been the only one with tumors. Does anyone know what triggers the tumor?

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  14. Stephen,

    The question you ask is on "penetrance" of a genetic disease. Penetrance means what percentage of people with a mutation actually has the disease at a certain age. In theory, both genetics and environment can play a role in determining who will show the disease at what age. In practical terms, very little is known.

    In short, I don't know what makes a carrier with SDHB mutation develops the real disease. I would suggest that you follow common healthy lifestyle and the screening schedule. Eventually most people with SDHB mutation will get a tumor.

    Dr. Pheo

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  15. This is to ad to my previous post, I have all my tests results but the only one I did not get or ask for was the pathology report.
    I had it faxed to me and
    Yes you were right no histologic evidence of a pheo and a good adreanal gland gone.

    I appreciate your help and now could move on and keep my other adreanl gland and get to the root of my problem.


    The sad part I have seen both after surgery, the lapo and endo said nothing about it and both have pheo patients before.

    And if there is anything else I should look for just let me know so I could pass this on to the next Drs I will be seeing Thanks again

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  16. Thank you for the follow-up. Your experience is not uncommon. If a recent study, of all patients with clinical diagnosis of pheo and with adrenal resection, >20% of patients actually do not have pheo. It is called "over-diagnosis" in medical jargons. Over-diagnosis should be avoidable in most cases.

    I suggest the clonidines suppression test to make sure you do not have pheo. If the test shows you don't have pheo, I suggest you find a good internal medicine doctor who will then take care of your syptoms with the understanding that the symptoms are not caused by a pheo.

    Dr. Pheo

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  17. Update I have seen my endo who I had before and she will not give me the cloidine suppression test feels I have to have a episode for anything to show is this true?


    I have asked to give me script so I could rule this out no.

    She is set on me taking anxiety meds Celexa and if 20mg don't work will raise it.


    I also showed her my pathology report she said nothing. My Md is much better at giving me the 24hr urine and plasma free and all scans. Will he be able to write the script for clonidine suppression test?

    I was suppose to be going to another vacility but no new patients for awhile they are getting a new endo.

    I just want to get to the problem and work from there.

    Any suggestions on this new info will help Thank you

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  18. The clonidine suppression test is very simple to do and can be done in any doctor's office. The doctor needs to be familiar with the test because sometimes the patient may have low blood pressure. On the other hand, the chance that you have pheo is not high. The test is not urgent.

    Dr. Pheo

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  19. I am also SDHB positive and in the family of one of your other posters. As you said above, most people with this mutation will develop a tumor at some point. I have read that the percentage of developing a tumor in one's lifetime is as high at 77%. Have you also read this as a statistic? This seems extremely high.

    As well, I am 6 months pregnant with my first child. At what age should I test my child for the gene mutation?

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  20. Dear Katie,

    The 77% is correct. It is indeed high.

    The youngest reported age of an SDHB carrier to have pheo is 7. You want to check your children before that age. I suggest checking your daughter when drawing blood is not too difficult (a few years old).

    Dr. Pheo

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  21. Dr Pheo,
    My 17 year old daughter recently had arthroscopic hip surgery. During surgery, her bp spiked. She was given beta blockers and had immediate flash pulmonary edema. The surgeons and anesthesiologists all said they'd "never had a patient do that" in surgery. The only suggestion they have had is to have her tested for a Pheo. Where/what kind of doctor should we go to to begin the testing process?

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  22. Dear Robin,

    You usually see endocrinologist.

    Dr. Pheo

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  23. Dr. Pheo, I have been having symptoms off and on for many years, main symptoms are tachycardia, high blood pressure but goes up and down, burning sensations on my skin that is transient, headaches, irritability, weight loss without trying All of the symtoms are episodic. I can also be very sensitive to heat, but I dont sweat so I tend to overheat easily. I have also recently been diagnosed with primary hyper parathyroid and also have a multi nodual goiter with well over 20 nodules on both sides of my thyroid. Thyroid funtions are normal, no indication of it being the cause of the tachy. I have been to the ER 3 times due to tachy, had echo and holter 24 hours on day with no symptoms. All have come out fine. My Endo has ordered the 25 hour urine test however catching a day where I have symptoms in the morning and can start the test is really difficult. My endo is recomending removal of thyroid and parathyroid tumor. I am not sure if I need the thyroid removed and am nervous about surgery without having ruled out the pheo. Is there any other test that is easier than the 24 hour urin to rule this out prior to surgery?

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  24. Dear Anonymous,

    The plasma metanephrines test is the best.

    Dr. Pheo

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