This topic is suggested by Dennis.
First of all, making the diagnosis of pheochromocytoma is not a trivial decision. It means more imaging studies and the eventual surgical operation. The patient has to ask two questions: 1) whether the diagnosis is correct, and 2) if the diagnosis is correct, how to proceed with further workups and management.
The experience of the doctor who makes the diagnosis is probably the most critical indicator of whether the diagnosis is correct. The average physicians see few patients with pheochromocytoma in their entire professional life, and they make the diagnosis themselves for even fewer patients. A reasonable question the patient needs to ask the physician is "how many patients with pheochromocytoma have you taken care of?" Most doctors won't be offended by this question. If the doctor has seen fewer than 3 patients, the doctor's experience on pheochromocytoma is too little to make an accurate diagnosis.
The other factor is the doctor's practice environment. Doctors affiliated with an academic center with a large experience on pheochromocytoma have more resources on pheochromocytoma. They know physicians with more experience, they know which radiologists to refer the patients to, and they know which surgeons have the best reputation on pheochromocytoma resecton.
The best doctors on pheochromocytoma are those working in an academic center and doing clinical research on pheochromocytoma. These doctors deal with this disease as part of their career and they have accumulated a large experience on this tumor. They also usually have a program on systemically follow patients after surgical resection.
If the diagnosis is made by an experienced physician, the diagnosis is probably correct. If the diagnosis is made by an inexperienced physician, it may not be necessarily correct, and to have a second opinion from an experienced physician is very prudent. If the patient has the means, it is always a good idea to have a second opinion from another experienced physician even if the diagnosis was already made by an experienced physician, especially when the first physician was not very sure.
To select a surgeon follows the same logic. The best surgeons are those working in an academic center with a large experience on pheochromocytoma and they have operated on more than a few patients with pheochromocytoma. They have seen the tricky perioperative course and work closely with endocrinologists.
As Dennis puts it, a patient should not settle for mere convenience after diagnosed with pheochromocytoma for the first time. Seeking opinions from experienced physicians is very important.
Sunday, April 5, 2009
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Hi! My husband is currently diagnosed with pheo. He is 37 yrs old and has just been diagnosed 2 days ago. His tumor is in the right adrenal gland and is approx 5cms. The credit goes to his internal medicine doctor who was insistent on my husband undergoing so many tests. We just thought that he was suffering from heredity high BP!
ReplyDeleteWe are at the moment trying to look for a doctor specializing in this field. From the location perspective, we are looking at 2 cities mainly LA (UCLA) & Boston (Mass General). The former is close to home. However, Boston was home to us 5 months ago and we have friends in the medical field in Mass General and other hospitals in the city.
What would be ur advice?
Both are great.
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ReplyDeleteDear Michael,
DeleteI deleted your comment to protect your privacy. Currently I prefer communicating anonymously with the readers because one person's questions and my answers are likely useful info to others as well.
Being diagnosed with pheo is an exceptional experience. If you post anonymously the lab results and imaging findings, I can help you determine whether the diagnosis is correct and what the next step is.
Dr. Pheo
Dear Anonymous,
DeletePlease see doctors at Mayo Scottsdale. I deleted your message to protect your privacy. Please do not post your email address.
Dr. Pheo
Dr Pheo
ReplyDeletePlease tell me where the best hospital /group for pheochromocytoma dx and surgery would be. I want experts for this area. I live in San Diego but don't mind going where I need to. Thank you
Please read my post:
DeleteTUESDAY, APRIL 28, 2009
"Dr. Pheo's Pheo Dr."
Dr. Pheo
I was recently diagnosed with a pheochromocytoma after a 24 hr urinalysis showed that my normetanepharine levels were at 1009. I am a 30 year old male. Multiple range of symptoms, too many to list, most severe are the tachycardia and dangerous fluctuating blood pressure.
ReplyDeleteI have had 2 Ct scans done which did not locate the tumor(s). I have done multiple blood draws, urine collections, and many other tests.
I can give you many more specifics, but would rather do so privately. I am tired. I want to get back to living life again. Please help.
Dear Anonymous,
DeleteI am not sure if you have pheo. If possible, you can do an MIBG scan to help localize the tumor, if you do have one.
Dr. Pheo
My mom was diagnosed with pheochromocytoma this year and had it removed (lithroscopy) in May 2013. She continues to have a high rate and high blood pressure. Also, her urine levels are still high and were higher his month than last month. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. In addition what type of doctor would you recommend?
ReplyDeleteThank you.
Dear Anonymous,
DeleteI doubt she has pheo at the first place. Do you have her pathology report on the tumor?
Dr. Pheo
We do not have it but we will request it and I will get back with you. Thank you!
DeleteMy experience with pheo (and MEN 2A) might be useful to your readers: http://obviouslysomething.blogspot.ca/2013/11/men-2-tumourmaker-or-guide-for-fearful.html.
ReplyDeleteThanks.
DeleteCan you give me some referrals for doctors specializing in pheo in the Boston ma area? My Endocrinologist has diagnosed me, but has never treated a patient with this. He had not referred to to anyone for continued care to get the surgery done. Please help with any info. Thanks,jackie
ReplyDeleteDear Jackie,
DeleteDr. Robert G. Dluhy at Brigham & Womens is an expert on adrenal tumors, including pheo. Other academic centers such as MGH, BU, and Beth Israel should also have expertise on pheo.
Dr. Pheo
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ReplyDeleteCan you please give names of physicians specializing in pheo in the southern states? My best friend was diagnosed and none of her doctors have a clue where to send her. She has suffered long enough.
ReplyDeletePlease see the post on TUESDAY, APRIL 28, 2009.
DeleteDr.Pheo,
ReplyDeleteIs Mission hospital equally equipped as Duke Univ to operate on adrenal removal due to phenochromocytoma?
I need the best near or in NC Thank you and blessings.B
I don't know the two hospitals. I would assume Duke is a good start because it is a university hospital.
DeleteDr. Pheo
I would choose Duke. I no longer trust mission. I have read great things of Duke and Pheos.
DeleteI would choose Duke. I no longer trust mission. I have read great things of Duke and Pheos.
DeleteDr. Pheo,
ReplyDeleteI've recently been experiencing random BP spikes. 190-220. My internist and cardiologist requested a 24 urine test which showed slightly elevated numbers, followed by an ultrasound which identified a small nodule on my adrenal. (see below for results) They aren't sure if its pheo since i don't have the other classic symptoms.. just the random, very high spikes. Do you have any thoughts or suggestions?
thanks
24 Hr Urine
Metanephrines Total 24 hr 675 ug/24hr < 900
Urine
Normetanephrine 24 hr 230 ug/24hr < 600
Urine
Metanephrine 24 hr Urine 446 ug/24hr < 300 H
Metanephrine/Creatinine 537 ug/g < 600
Ratio creat
Creatinine 139.6 mg/dL
No age related reference range for this test
Creatinine, 24 Hr. 1.26 g/24hr 0.63-2.50
MRI
Findings: There is a subtle 1.0 cm left adrenal nodule with signal dropout on the opposed phase imaging, suggestive of a lipid-rich adenoma. The liver demonstrates no biliary dilatation or focal solid mass. No significant hepatic steatosis. Spleen is normal in size. Gallbladder shows no wall thickening. Pancreas is normal in T1 signal intensity with no evidence of solid masses or pancreatic duct dilatation. Kidneys enhanced symmetrically without evidence for hydronephrosis or solid masses. No enlarged lymph nodes are identified in the upper abdomen. No free or loculated fluid is seen. No suspicious osseous lesions are detected. Impressions: Left adrenal lipid-rich adenoma (benign). Correlate with laboratory exam to evaluate for functioning adenoma.
Dear tetana,
DeleteOverall, pheo is unlikely.
Dr. Pheo
dr. Pheo
ReplyDeleteCoul you recommend a doctor specializing in Pheo in the Chicago area. Thank you. Mary
Dear Mary,
DeleteI don't know any particular doctors there. Northwestern or UIC medical school is a good start.
Dr. Pheo
Dr. Pheo,
ReplyDeleteI have a friend in China, and I just heard he got benign pheochromocytoma for 18 years and had more than 20 surgeries in his entire body already. I do not know the details but looks like pheochromocytoma travels in his body. No doctor could him what's the root cause and he had been told his symptom is pretty rare --- only 4 same patient in the world. We do not know it is correct or not. Do you know any expert near China in this field? Or if he can come to US hospital, what should he prepare? Which hospital should be the best choice? Looking forward to your reply and appreciate it.
Bin Wu
Dear Bin,
ReplyDeleteDr Zhengpei Zeng at Peking Union Medical College Hospital (Beijing) is an expert on pheo. Dr. Karel Pacak at NIH is an expert on pheo genetics and is probably the best doctor for your friend. If your friend wants to see an expert in US who also speaks Mandarin Chinese, then Run Yu in Los Angeles is an option.
Dr. Pheo
Hi Dr Pheo, I'm male 65 I had Pheochromocytoma 8 years ago they removed my right adrenal gland . Now I'm having the same symptoms again I'm looking for the best Specialist you know of I'm desperate. Cape Town
ReplyDeleteDear Madam Mouiselle,
DeleteI am sorry but I don't know a pheo specialist in South Africa. You may go to University of Cape Town School of Medicine, which is a world-class medical school. It should have doctors there who are familiar with pheo.
Dr. Pheo
Hi,
ReplyDeleteI was diagnosed with Pheo on my left adrenal gland and had this surgically removed 3 years ago. I have always felt the symptoms were present, albeit very moderate. I was told in July this year my pheo has recurred or is malignant - I was shocked at this as I had always been led to believe it was benign. I was recently told the pathology report at the time suggested the tumor was possibly behaving in a malignant way, however this was not communicated to me.
I have just had my first MIBG therapy (1 of 3) and I am feeling very tired - I guess this is common.
My concern is the time lost - 3 years since my pheo was removed and only just starting MIBG. I'm worried there is little hope for recovery. I am being treated in Oxford, England. The wait time for appointments is terrible, but once you are seen the staff are fantastic.
Any suggestions on how I can help myself through medication, diet, nutrition at this time? Any advice welcome - I am feeling really worried.
Thanks in advance
Dear Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteAs there are no clear pathological diagnostic criteria for malignant pheo, we cannot make the diagnosis of malignant pheo based on pathology, although pathology can be suggestive.
Malignant pheo has a wide spectrum of aggressiveness. The tumor growth speed can help determine how aggressive the malignant pheo is. You can ask your doctor at Oxford how she or he thinks your pheo's aggressiveness. By the way, Oxford is a wonderful place to get pheo treated.
Usually you take alpha and beta blockers to control blood pressure and prevent heart injury. I don't know any diet or nutrition has direct bearing on malignant pheo.
Dr. Pheo
Hi Pheo
ReplyDeleteI have familiy who is in intensive care, came in with heart failure and Ct scan shows a 8 cm x 9 cm gland in the right kidney area. Becasuse og high creatinine and carbamid they can not make another scan with contrast. He is more stable now but still ventilated and sedated. Now heart is better , and urine came back with 50 times elevated catecoalmines. They are sure its pheo. My question to you is there any ideas on how to do surgery when the glandel is this big and the cathecolamins is very high. they are treating him with alfa blockers, but in his case could it be an idea with metyrosine?
Dear Unknown,
ReplyDeleteMetyrosine can be used if alpha blockers are not sufficient in helping the heart recover.
Dr. Pheo
Hi I have a friend who has had a diagnosis of pheo some 15 or so years ago and apart from being treated for hypertension instability she has suffered a progressively aggressive autoimmune disease in her hand. It has progressed over the last 10 years from attacks of acute psoriasis to currently an irreversible necrotic open lesion of the wrist exposing internal tissues due to repeated surgical debridement. This has failed to stop the uncontrolled flow of synovial fluid and continues to cause swelling and necrosis of the peripheral wound area. Can you advise if this condition is in fact likely to be related to pheo or a separate autoimmune problem.
ReplyDeleteAlso are there any physicians in Australia you could recommend as having the skills and experience to correctly diagnose this person and deliver an appropriate treatment plan.
This matter is of great urgency so your advice is appreciated.
Dear Unknown,
ReplyDeleteI am sorry but this is beyond my expertise.
Dr. Pheo
My husband is awaiting results from his 24 hr urine to help progress the diagnosis of pheochromocytoma. He has a left adrenal mass on CT, uncontrolled (essential) hypertension, fluctuating blood sugars (type 2 diabetic), anxiety, irritability, nausea, lack of appetite, sweating, pallor and insomnia. He sees his Nephrologist Tuesday and will have access to the urine then although this Dr was initially brought in for suspected kidney disease. On Wednesday he sees his Cardiologist, who he is current with, and the Urologist that will be doing the surgery. In my town he's the doctor with pheochromocytoma experience. We expect Labetalol to he started and any dietary changes to be made as well. We are going into this in a small town but I do feel comfortable with the combined experience of his doctors. They are planning surgery for a time when every doctor is available if not in the OR from the beginning. I have two questions. Should my husband be avoiding situations that would normally make him anxious, how high can his BP go before I panic? Are there any questions I should be asking his doctors? I fully understand the peri and post op potential for complications and believe his doctors understand how his cumulative diagnosis work into this procedure.
ReplyDeleteWe saw the nephrologist today. I expected him to just review blood work after IV contrast a week ago. He appears skeptical about a Pheo Dx. Still waiting for 24 hr urine results. He ordered serum cortisol and aldosterone and thinks my husband may need a biopsy in four spots of the vascular supply to kidneys to determine what is secreting and where. Came away confused again. He mentioned a fatty tumor vs a Pheo. Wouldn't that be apparent on CT? Stil seeing urologist and cardiologist tomorrow for what I am assuming will be the start of pre op prep. Would he be looking for paras? Wouldn't they show on CT?
DeleteDear Alice,
DeleteWhat is the size of the adrenal mass? How does the CT report describe the mass? The results of the urine test are very important as well. So far, it is too early to say whether he has pheo or not.
Dr. Pheo
2.8 cm on CT. The report I saw today was very basic, non descriptive. Tomorrow we see his cardiologist and expect him to add Labetalol for BP control and pre-surgical management . We also have an appointment with the urologist (surgeon in my area) in the afternoon. We will bring him a CD of the scan to review. I have complete trust in his primary care physician, in over 30 yrs of nursing he's one of the top diagnosticians I have ever worked with. Thanks for your answer.
DeleteI quit following your blog shortly after this post as my husband's urine and blood tests came back negative for Pheo markers. He had his left adrenalectomy on Jan 18th without pre-op prep. Recovery has been brutal.
Deletei was diagnosis with a pheo in 2016 it took over a year to find it. It was found by a fluke I had a spot on my lung , why doing a PET scan they hit the adrenal gland, an there it was. all the blood test and urine test did not show it as a pheo but I had all the symptoms uncontrolled blood pressure nigh sweats, etc. i was given a biopsy and it was a pheo. It was remove d and I did well until now. My symptoms has started again so they are thinking I have a secondary tumor same with he blood and urine test. waiting or a scan
DeleteDear Unknown,
DeleteIt is very unusual for a pheo with negative markers to cause severe symptoms. How big was the pheo removed in 2016? What was the histological diagnosis of the surgery?
Dr. Pheo
Needing the best doctor for pheo removal in Utah, Nevada also an option, any recommendation?
ReplyDeleteDear Unknown,
DeleteThe best places are probably University of Utah and University of Nevada. I am not aware of a specfific pheo specialist in the two states.
Dr. Pheo
Diagnosed with pheo on left adrenal, really needing to find skilled surgeon in Utah, also what are surgery success rates?
ReplyDeleteNeeding the best doctor for pheo removal in Utah, Nevada also an option, any recommendation?
ReplyDeleteDr. Pheo,
ReplyDeleteI just had a pheochromocytoma removed in an open surgery over my left kidney 4 weeks ago last friday. My BP has yet to stabilize. I went in to see my endocrinologist Thursday, and she ordered a plasma test. My blood work came back yesterday and my levels are higher now than right after surgery. My number wwas 236. I have to go in today as she is nervous and wants me to have a pet scan done.
Should I be concerned that there is another tumor that they either didn't see the first time or has formed since surgery?
Dear Anonymous,
DeleteIt is a bit strange. I usually only measure the pheo markers perhaps a month after surgery. I don't recommend measuring the markers immediately after surgery as they should remain elevated then. What were the marker levels BEFORE surgery?
Pheo grows slowly so it is impossible to form a new pheo within a month.
Dr. Pheo
While in the hospital right after surgery my blood was 149. I believe my urine was 1100 prior and 950 right after.
DeleteSo I guess the concern now is that my BP is still very unstable and my blood came back even higher 4 weeks later
Dear Anonymous,
DeleteThere are only a few possibilities. The most important step now is to verify you did have pheo at the first place. What did the pathology report exactly say about your tumor?
Dr. Pheo
I definitely had one. It was over my left kidney and it had to be removed in an open surgery 4 weeks ago. I went in for a PET scan yesterday. I am waiting for my results.
DeleteHello, My daughter is 11 and has been ill since October of 2011. She is an average American 11 year old in a middle class home. She has had the same symptoms all along. They are episodes of: pain behind the belly button, headache, strong muscle cramps in the legs, feet, and neck, increased heart rate/blood, severe facial flushing, shaky hands and legs, high intolerance to heat, followed by vomiting and diarrhea. In 2010 when the symptoms first started they occurred every 6-8 weeks. The symptoms have stayed the same but increased in severity and lessened time between episodes to every 7-11 days. She was diagnosed with Slipped capital femoral epiphysis in August of 2015 and was treated with a pin which has been linked to endocrine disorders. Her GI doctor that we visited recently brought up a concern of Pheochromocytoma and MENS Type 2. They recently did testing through blood work and through a 24 hour urine test. We do not have the results yet but are anxious to do so. We live about 3 hours from the Children's Hospital and we did not do her test on a day that she was episodic. They did not ask for us to take it or not take it during an episode. Would this make a difference? Thank you for any information or education on my daughters symptoms connected to Pheo and or Pediatric Pheos
ReplyDeleteHello, My daughter is 11 and has been ill since October of 2011. She is an average American 11 year old in a middle class home. She has had the same symptoms all along. They are episodes of: pain behind the belly button, headache, strong muscle cramps in the legs, feet, and neck, increased heart rate/blood, severe facial flushing, shaky hands and legs, high intolerance to heat, followed by vomiting and diarrhea. In 2010 when the symptoms first started they occurred every 6-8 weeks. The symptoms have stayed the same but increased in severity and lessened time between episodes to every 7-11 days. She was diagnosed with Slipped capital femoral epiphysis in August of 2015 and was treated with a pin which has been linked to endocrine disorders. Her GI doctor that we visited recently brought up a concern of Pheochromocytoma and MENS Type 2. They recently did testing through blood work and through a 24 hour urine test. We do not have the results yet but are anxious to do so. We live about 3 hours from the Children's Hospital and we did not do her test on a day that she was episodic. They did not ask for us to take it or not take it during an episode. Would this make a difference? Thank you for any information or education on my daughters symptoms connected to Pheo and or Pediatric Pheos
ReplyDeleteHello, My daughter is 11 and has been ill since October of 2011. She is an average American 11 year old in a middle class home. She has had the same symptoms all along. They are episodes of: pain behind the belly button, headache, strong muscle cramps in the legs, feet, and neck, increased heart rate/blood, severe facial flushing, shaky hands and legs, high intolerance to heat, sweating, followed by vomiting and diarrhea. In 2010 when the symptoms first started they occurred every 6-8 weeks. The symptoms have stayed the same but increased in severity and lessened time between episodes to every 7-11 days. You can observe the episodes happening step by step every time. Aside from the process of the episodes there isn’t any rhyme or reason to them. We have tried to link them to food, stress, environment and nothing seems to prevent or help them. They can occur any time of day awake or sleeping. She was diagnosed with Slipped capital femoral epiphysis in August of 2015 and was treated with a pin, which has been linked to endocrine disorders. Her GI doctor that we visited recently brought up a concern of Pheochromocytoma and MENS Type 2. They recently did testing through blood work and through a 24-hour urine test. We do not have the results yet but are anxious to do so. We live about 3 hours from the Children's Hospital and we did not do her test on a day that she was episodic. They did not ask for us to take it or not take it during an episode. Would this make a difference? Thank you for any information or education on my daughter’s symptoms connected to Pheo and or Pediatric Pheos
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous,
DeletePheo is a serious concern. If metanephrines are measured, it does not matter if she has an episode or not.
Dr. Pheo
Sorry for the multiple posts. I didn't think it went through and added a few things to the last post that I had left off of the first ones. Thank you again.
ReplyDeleteI had a pheochromocytoma removed on 11/6. Shortly after my plasma metanephrine level was still 850. I had it taken again 12/15 as well as a PET SCAN. The scan didn't show anything, but my level was 896. My BP is still erratic and levels high so Dr is concerned. I am actually going in for ANOTHER blood test today. Any thoughts?
ReplyDeleteDear Rhondell,
ReplyDeleteHow much were the metanephrine levels BEFORE the operation and how big was the pheo?
Dr. Pheo
I believe 1190. Then 850 a week after, then 896 4 weeks after
ReplyDeleteI believe 1190. Then 850 a week after, then 896 4 weeks after
ReplyDeleteDid you ever see your pathology report?
DeleteDid your wife attend all your doctor appointments with you?
DeleteDear Rhondell,
ReplyDeleteHow big was the adrenal tumor? Did you see the pathology report?
Dr. Pheo
Hi Dr. Pheo.
ReplyDeleteI have been very sick for nine years. It started as high heart rate. I was diagnosed with depression/anxiety. Then came sevier migraines,fatigue, dizziness, memory loss. stomach pains, tremors in my hands, sweating and paleness. I am now 36. This year my BP has started spiking. 159/105. Was referred to cardiologist for SVT. He then did a 24 hour urine to test for a pheo. Levels were elevated so he referred me to a Endo. She then did a plasma free blood test And another urine. But she says I am ok. My question is, how am I supposed to get a doctor to do the scans? CT or MRI? When they will not listen to the patient? My cardiologist and Endo are part of the same physician's network. So the cardiologist, whom has no familiarity with pheochromocytoma, says he has to trust his colleague. Please help.
Dear Sis,
DeleteIf your endocrinologist thinks you do not have pheo, chances are that she is right. On the other hand, to have a second opinion is a good idea.
Dr. Pheo
Hi Dr. Pheo,
ReplyDeleteI was recently hospitalized after a huge spike in BP. My Doctors say its every symptom of Pheo, Paraganglioma, or Carcinoid. Blood and urine came back only slightly elevated out of the range. MRI's showed nothing in the abdomen. The radiologist said he has only found tumors on MIBG if there was more proof in the blood or urine.
Have you ever heard of this?
Also, any recommendations for Doctor, radiologists or hospitals in NYC?
Dear Unknown,
DeletePheo is unlikely. I don't think MIBG scan will add much.
You can try any of the NYC university hospitals for a doctor reasonably experienced in pheo.
Dr. Pheo
Hi Dr Pheo,
ReplyDeleteJust got results of blood test.
- Total Metanephrines: 3974 pg/mL
- Normetanephine: 3293 pg/mL
- Metanephrine: 681 pg/mL
MRI on Monday to confirm what appears to be obvious.
That said, who medical centers on the west coast have the most experience with pheo removal? I am in Los Angeles. I just want to make sure I am working wit experienced physicians.
Thanks,
KingsFan
Dear Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteUCLA and Cedars-Sinai are both experienced in pheo removal.
Dr. Pheo
Thank you, Dr. Pheo. Seeing Dr Yeh at UCLA on Monday. Glad to know I made the right call.
DeleteBTW, CT confirmed results of plasma mets. 4.8cm pheo in left adrenal. Sounds like I'm in good hands at UCLA.
-KingsFan
In Oct 2014 a small (0.8cm) adrenal adenoma was found incidentally via CT Scan. A repeat CT Scan was done and measured 0.6 cm.
ReplyDeleteReferred to Endocrinologist who did both plasma and 24-hr urine tests. All Normal.
In March 2015, experienced Hypertensive Crisis after 12 years of controlled BP on 25mg Atenolol.
Plasma Metanephrine and Normetanephrine was restested and found Normal. BP continued to be erratic until June 2015 when it stabilized.
In August 2015, experience Tachycrdia event - 3 days in a row. Holter revealed SVT and bradycardia, 30-Day Event Monitor revealed nothing unusual.
As part of routine follow-up, a repeat CT Scan was done Nov 2015, and Adenoma showed at 0.6cm.
All labs were normal, although higher than previous year -
Normetanephrine - 71-3/26/15,90-3/26/15
Metanephrine - 33-3/26/15, 42-2/17/16
Cortisol - 11-3/26/15, 17.5-2/17/16
ACTH - 11-11/20/14, 13.9-2/17/16
Aldosterone - 4-11/20/14, 9.8-3/27/15
Renin - 0.3-11/20/14, 0.97-3/27/15
Overnight Dexamethsone Suppresion - 12/14/14 - 1.2 Cortisol
1) I moved in Dec 2014 and new Endo did not do a 24hr urine. Electrophysiologist I saw for tachycardia last week recommended repeat. Since I had plasma tests is this necessary or is 24-hr urine more accurate?
2) I see that my Endo did not repeat the Adosterone or Renin tests done 3/27/15 - should these be repeated? I am concerned that the values more than doubled from 11/20/14. He also did not do the Overnight Dexamethasone Suppression test at all - should this be repeated? (last done 12/14/14).
3) Should I continue to have CT Scan yearly for adenoma? Would an MRI be more specific?
4) Can a benign adenoma suddenly turn into a pheochromocytoma? If so, would it make sense just to remove the adenoma to get rid of that worry?
5) Can you recommend any docs - endo and surgeon - experienced with pheo/adrenal adenoma - in the Charleston, SC area?
Dear Anonymous,
DeleteOverall, risk of pheo is not high.
1. If plasma metanephrines are done, there is generally no need to do urine tests.
2 and 3. Please direct these questions to your endocrinologist. Generally these are not critical issues.
4. Unlikely an adenoma would turn into a pheo.
5. Just go to USC.
Dr. Pheo
My sister was just diagnosed with pheo. She lives in the Maryland area and her endocrinologist recommended NIH or Mayo clinic in Rochester. I live in the LA area and read on the blog about Dr Yeh at UCLA. What are your thoughts about NIH, Mayo, UCLA?
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteAll are great! I would just consider practical issues to pick one.
Dr. Pheo
Dr Pheno,
ReplyDeleteI'm 56. Medical history significant for GI ruptures x2. Hypertension, night sweats, palpitations. And daughter with confirmed pheochromocytoma in pregnancy. Daughter's tumor was found in mediastinum. Surgecaly treatment included , after cessation section at 30 weeks, resection of tricuspid valve, right coronary artery bypass graft, resection and repair of right ventricle with bovine patch. Thank God daughter and granddaughter are doing well.
I also suffer from 75-100 lbs weight loss and headache. Have periods of significant hyperglycemia (400-500+)
Just had 24 hour urine positive norepinephrine and epinephrine 2x normal.
Also just dx with severe osteoporosis. HX of multiple fractures.
Considering the adrenal clinic at University of Michigan.
Can you please comment?
Thank You
Jim
Also paralyzed right vocal cord and CT of chest showing 3mm mass in right upper lobe of lung.
ReplyDeleteAdded by Jim
Dear Jim,
DeleteUniversity of Michigan is a great place for pheo diagnosis and treatment.
Your condition is a little too complicated. I would defer any comments to the Michigan doctors.
Dr. Pheo
Dr Pheo,
ReplyDeleteMy husband is in the very beginning stages of diagnosis. We live in central Wyoming. I can't find your post from April of 09. Are there any Drs near us that could help with Dx and treatment?
Dear Anonymous,
DeleteYou can try Dr. Varsha Babu in Fargo, North Dakota. Her appointment number is (701) 234-7980. Not sure how far she is from Wyoming.
Dr. Pheo
Dr. Pheo my husband was diagnosed with pheocromocytoma 10 yrs ago he's had all the testing done has had an MIBG test done as well and a Dr. named Bellnap tried removing it but I guess failed. Well a year ago he was diagnosed with Chiari Malformation but won't do surgery on that until they remove the pheo,but unfortunately no Dr here in the state of Utah will attempt to remove it because it's too risky. Now my husband is having memory issues and feels like he's not functioning right. Can you please help us by referring us to a Dr. who will attempt to remove his pheo or try to help him please. It hurts me to see him in pain and sleep all day and him not getting any better. Thanks in advance
ReplyDeleteDear Unknown,
DeleteYour husband needs to go to an academic center with experience in pheo. Just see which doctor on the Dr. Pheo's pheo doctor list suits his needs.
Dr. Pheo
My dad is being tested for pheochromocytoma, and I have a few questions?
ReplyDeleteWe live in the seattle area of Washington state, do you have any recommendations for doctors?
My dad is 57 years old, and has every symptom that could be a pheochromocytoma. His cousin was just recently diagnosed with pheochromocytoma. His doctor found his by accident looking for something else. My dad's doctor ordered the 24 hour urine test, and she said those results looked normal, so she ordered blood work for testing. She stated that one of the levels was elevated. She checked with another doctor an endocrinologist and suggest to retest in 3 months because it's probably a false positive. I have been researching pheochromocytoma because I've never heard if it before. I understand this is pretty rare. They did ct scan for his kidney stones and said they didn't see anything. His cousin also had ct scams done and nothing showed in the ct scan until they were looking for something for his back then they found it. Everything I've read said if this runs in the family your chances increase of having it. Is this something I should take lightly since a family has had this and one of his levels is elevated? Should we get a second opinion. I know this is rare, but if he does have this it would explain all his symptoms they can't figure out why he is having. Any input would be great!
Thank you!
My dad is being tested for pheochromocytoma, and I have a few questions?
ReplyDeleteWe live in the seattle area of Washington state, do you have any recommendations for doctors?
My dad is 57 years old, and has every symptom that could be a pheochromocytoma. His cousin was just recently diagnosed with pheochromocytoma. His doctor found his by accident looking for something else. My dad's doctor ordered the 24 hour urine test, and she said those results looked normal, so she ordered blood work for testing. She stated that one of the levels was elevated. She checked with another doctor an endocrinologist and suggest to retest in 3 months because it's probably a false positive. I have been researching pheochromocytoma because I've never heard if it before. I understand this is pretty rare. They did ct scan for his kidney stones and said they didn't see anything. His cousin also had ct scams done and nothing showed in the ct scan until they were looking for something for his back then they found it. Everything I've read said if this runs in the family your chances increase of having it. Is this something I should take lightly since a family has had this and one of his levels is elevated? Should we get a second opinion. I know this is rare, but if he does have this it would explain all his symptoms they can't figure out why he is having. Any input would be great!
Thank you!
Dear Candace,
DeleteThe University of Washington should have an endocrinologist with experience in pheo.
Your dad's situation is a little tricky. He is at higher risk of pheo due to the family history. The borderline test results indicate that his symptoms are not caused by pheo per se, though. The best way to be sure is to see a specialist.
Dr. Pheo
Dr. Pheo,
DeleteThank you so much for your feed back. I am in the process of getting my dad a referral to the University of Washington that has expierence with pheo. I got in contact with my dad's cousin who had his pheo taken care of at the University of Washington. I really appreciate your feedback, I feel better about wanting to pursue this further to make sure it is or isn't a pheo.
I am so glad I came across your page, it has been very helpful learning about pheo.
Thank you,
Candace
Dr. Pheo,
DeleteThese are my dad's test results that the doctor said one of the levels was elevated.
Normetanephrine, PL - value 179
Metanephrine, PL - value <10
What exactly do those results mean?
Thank you,
Candace
Dear Candace,
DeleteWhat is the normal range of the normetanephrine test?
Dr. Pheo
Dr. Pheo,
DeleteThe normal range for the normetanephrine test is...
Standard range is 0-145pg/ml
Thank you,
Candace
Dear Candace,
DeleteIn that case, your father unlikely has pheo.
Dr. Pheo
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ReplyDeleteMy story and question:
ReplyDeleteI am healthy 36 year old female, Russian descend. No surgeries, no chronic illnesses. Ht 5'4 wt 158lbs
No family history of any diseases. Everybody is healthy and live very long
I have LOW blood pressure, 98/75-110/80 at most. I did not have a single reading of high BP.
I have occasional palpitations for about last 9 years. I am somewhat anxious (I have hypochondria and cancer phobia).
No spells of sweats or panic attacks. However, I have spells of anxiety with situations that triggers it (and probably will make anxious average person)
June 2016 I had mild abdominal discomfort, MRI was done and per report "this image was done without IV contrast. there is dominant unilocular cyst in the left adrenal gland which is 34.5 mm max diameter"
My PCP said that its normal, no follow up needed.
August 2016.I started to have constant left side pain (back, upper left abdomen, left hip radiating to left leg). I changed my PCP because we moved. New PCO referred me to a general surgeon who does adrenal gland surgeries.
results of 24 hr urine test, it was 2 days test
I drink a lot of water, all my family drinks a lot too
total volume 9400ml
Dopamine 752
Cortisol, F, ug /24hr, U 56
Normetanephrine, Ur 70
Metanephrine , Ur 54
Normetanephr, U, 24 658
Metanephrine, U, 24hr 505
Aldosteron, serum
aldosterone 19.1
Retin, Plasma 0.99
ACTH, plasma 12.6
Gereral surgeron stated that I have pheo, and I have to start drugs that suppress adrenal glands before surgery.
My husband is ER physician and sais that test needs to be repeated and due to normal BP, no other symptoms believes I more likely do not have it.
I am unsure what my next step shoul be to confirm/rule out pheo. I live in rural NC, closest city in Raleigh.
Thank you
Maria
Dear Maria,
DeleteLarger urine volume is often associated with higher urine pheo marker levels. You either correct that by urine creatinine or better do plasma metanephrines (blood test).
Dr. Pheo
for me all blood test and urine test did not indicate a pheo but a bio did I had it removed in 2016. they said it could but active and then go dormant for a while I had all the symptoms
DeleteDear Dr. Pheo, thank you for your response.
ReplyDeleteI was wandering if I restrict my fluid intake, will decreased urine volume make my urine test more accurate?
Can I still run and do cardio/weights while undergoing testing for pheo?
Maria
Dear Maria,
ReplyDeleteIt is better that you test blood levels of metanephrine.
Whether it is wise to do strenuous exercise depends on how strongly your doctor suspects you have pheo. If your doctor feels strongly that you may have pheo, then it is prudent to avoid strenuous exercise until the diagnosis is clearly ruled out.
Dr. Pheo
Hi Dr Pheo,
DeleteI had my one adrenal glad removed about 8 years ago.It was the first ever done in my country I think. I have had two hip replacements since then. I was told the cortisone from the drugs that was given to me before the diagnosed (Pheochromocytomas)
My question is i have still pain where they cut me when I stress. And I cannot seem to shed weight. I had to lose before my hip ops....which I used Byetta successfully. Now nothing helps.My wife says I could have adrenal fatigue which is stopping weight loose.The doctors didn't say much as to what I should be doing post op future. Can you help?
Michael
Dear Unknown,
ReplyDeleteYou should ask your own doctors about the questions. The questions you ask are beyond the scope of this blog.
Dr. Pheo
Hello,
ReplyDeleteI was recently diagnosed with a right pheochromocytoma. My 24 urine adrenaline levels were at 7636. I've had the tumor for 15 years but recently found out that it was a pheo.
Are those number extreme from your experience? Should I get it removed urgently because my numbers are that high? Do you have any recommendations for surgeons in the Houston, TX area?
Dear Keysha,
DeleteThose levels are not very high. Pheo surgery should never be urgent but requires careful preoperative preparation. MD Anderson and Methodist should have good surgeons for pheo. I don't know a specific one.
Dr. Pheo
Help I was being seen by a Doctor who has me on Labetalol (Who has since moved away) after having several episodes that had all indications of being related to Pheo symptoms. I also was found to have an enlarged Thyroid with several nodules and cysts. A blood test taken during a visit to another Doctor has my TSH being low and out of range. I want to see an Endocrinologist to have this checked out but would like to try to find one who has experience with Pheochromocytoma I am located in Long Island New York. I am hoping one can be recommended.
ReplyDeleteSteve
Dear Anonymous,
DeleteDr. Derek LeRoith at Mount Sinai is a great endocrinologist for your conditions.
Dr. Pheo
Dr. Pheo,
ReplyDeleteI am a 33 year old female experiencing many ailments, the most worrisome being severe chest pain, on and off but becoming more frequent and severe. Also have shortness of breath, tachycardia, intense headaches, nausea, dizziness, abdominal pain, vomiting, tingling in my arms and legs, anxiety, insomnia. These symptoms have gotten worse over the last few months. I ended up in the ER last week due to chest pain. They thought I had a pulmonary embolism but I did not. Other than the tachycardia, my heart seemed fine and they chalked it up to a panic attack. I have had 2 panic attacks in my life, this was not a panic attack. I had some minor bloodwork done which came back normal, other than a slightly elevated blood sugar and platelets. My blood sugar was 111 which the doctor said is fine unless I was fasting. I did not eat anything that day because I am never hungry. I have lost 30 lbs., feel sick often and just vomited again today. I felt fine this morning, other than a headache and as soon as I left the office I got nauseous and vomited. I saw my primary doctor yesterday who wants to test me for pheo. I am scheduled to have the urine test and bloodwork done asap. I am just starting this process and I know it's too early to diagnose without any test results but my anxiety is getting the best of me. After reading all about pheo, I am almost certain it is pheo. Do you know any doctors who specialize in pheo in the Albany, NY area or upstate New York? Thank you so much for your help.
Sarah
Dear Unknown,
ReplyDeleteUniversity of Rochester appears to have a doctor specializing in endocrine tumors.
Dr. Pheo
Any Pheo experts at the University of Michigan that you would recommend?
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous,
DeleteDr. Richard Auchus is a famous adrenal tumor specialist.
Dr. Pheo
Hello Dr. Pheo,
ReplyDeleteI was ready to leave on vacation, the night prior I had a pain in my left flank that got so bad I was doubling over. Went to the ER, and after I gave them a urine sample the pain subsided and never returned. Drs figured it was a kidney stone. All labs were normal.
Left on vacation the next day. Had some minor neck pain that would become a headache (tension type). The headache would become somewhat worse daily. I found tylenol would give some relief and was taking 1000mg several times a day. Im very healthy, never had BP issues, no diabetes, just have increased cholesterol. Thought I had a sinus infection. We were in Europe. The headaches continued to get worse and I saw a Dr. who prescribed antibiotics and a nasal spray. No relief and the headaches turned into migraines. We cut the trip short, and flew home. The trip home I was in constant pain, my breathing was poor and I was clammy and flush. Went right to the ER and found my bp to be 235/137. Took 3 visits to ER and 4 BP meds to normalize my BP and Im taking 500mg of Gabapentin for the headaches.
Blood Work: First visit to ER was 4/30
4/30 Urine keytones were high 5mg/dl.
5/5 Plasma Metanepherines were 77pg/nl (12-67 range)
5/5 Plasma Normetanepherines 163 pg/nl (18-101 range).
5/6 Urine Metanepherines 197ug/g (0-227 ug/g range)
5/6 Urine Normetanepherines 346 ug/g (100-450 ug/g range)
5/6 Urine Total Metanepherines 543 ug/g (100-677 ug/g range)
5/22 Plasma Metanepherines .34nmol (<50 nmol range)
5/22 Normetanepherine .95nmol (<90 nmol range),Normets were still high.
5/30 Urine Metanepherine 179mcg/24hr (44-261 range)
5/30 Urine Norephinepherine 42mcg/24hr (15-80 range)
5/30 Urine Normetanepherine 470mcg/24hr (138-521 range)
5/30 Urine Total Metanepherines 649mcg/24hr (233-716 range)
5/30 CT Scan w/o contrast of my adrenals was negative.
What do you think? Do you think I could possibly have a extra-adrenal pheo?
Thank you, I so appreciate your input.
Dear Anonymous,
DeletePheo is ruled out by the test results.
Dr. Pheo
Dear Doc: My family member has had pheo for nearly 20 years. He had treatment with the MIBG I 141@ UCSF and was in an excellent partial biological remission until now. Contrast MRI shows that he has several tumors in his spine. He now lives in Texas, who's top of the line in Texas? (It appears that MD Anderson is involved in a pharmaceutical clinical trial, which is not apt.) Or should he ask his previous treating physician for a referral? Oh yes, what about gamma knife treatment for resection?
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous,
DeleteMD Anderson is a great place for metastatic pheo. Gamma knife is a form of external radiation. The best treatment needs to be individualized by experienced doctors.
Dr. Pheo
Dr. Pheo,
ReplyDeleteI am a 42 yo female. Just had a 10x10cm pheo removal, with complete adrenalectamy late Sept. 2016. Due to size, & supposed possible damage to surrounding organs I had blockers & surgery done immediately following diagnosis. Now urologist/surgeon says I already have a regrowth, at the same site. Size is approximately an inch already, and he said I need surgical removal again, within the next few months.
My surgery was done in Stuart, Fl. I have read that I should find a specialist/ hospital that has/ is studying pheo' s for care, my surgeon/hospital was/is not. Should I get a second opinion & or the next surgery, done with a specialist, or is it better to stick with the surgeon that did prior procedure since he is familiar with me/my case? And can you recommend a specialist or hospital somewhere in Fl.?
Thank you so much for your time and help.
Erika
Dear Erika,
DeleteIf possible, it is better to have a second opinion. Moffitt Cancer Center is a good place in Florida.
Dr. Pheo
Dr. Pheo,
ReplyDeleteI'm in the process of doing the testing for a pheo. Metanephines are elevated but not greatly, about 1X the high limit. I have had palps and tachycardia every morning and some during the night and the day for years. I had an ER visit after taking asthma meds that resulted in a panic attack, with high Blood pressure readings, tachycardia, chills, vomiting and diarrhea, that was probably a catecholine rx. I had another similar rx after strenuous expertise recently that included high blood pressure, tachycardia, the feeling of being cold and dizzy and very nauseous lasting about an hour and a half to 2 hours afterward. I had eaten some cheddar cheese as well not knowing that aged cheeses can also be a trigger. The next day I felt abnormally weak. I had a full cardio work up a year ago after the ER visit. Waiting on salivary cortisol. Chromogranin A is neg. 5 HIAA is neg. I also have Hashimotos but labs show I'm in normal ranges except for Thyroid Peroxidase which is very high. What other conditions would yield these symptoms other than a Pheo??
Dear Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteYou unlikely have pheo. There are about 30 causes of similar symptoms. You need to see a specialist.
Dr. Pheo
I do not see Dr. Karel Pacak at NIH in Bethesda MD on your list of Pheo doctors. We were told he is one of the best in the US. Can you confirm this for us please?
ReplyDeleteHe is listed under DC area in US.
DeleteDr Pheo - my 27 year old son is experiencing the symptoms of pheochromocytom. Can you recommend a specialist in Birmingham, AL (at UAB maybe?) or in Atlanta, GA?
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous,
DeleteI would try UAB or Emory. I am not aware of a card-carrying pheo specialist at either place but they should be pretty good at diagnosing pheo.
Dr. Pheo
In order to have choice of surgeons for pheo removal, one would need to have good insurance. What does one do who has a Medicare Advantage plan than limits what doctors are available to you? And limits you to the doctors in your county?
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous,
DeleteThis is a challenging issue.
Dr. Pheo
I have been diagnosed with pheochromocytoma... I live in Las Vegas and wonder where is the best place to go for the surgery? I am scared...
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous,
DeleteYou can go to UCLA or UCSF.
Dr. Pheo
Can you possibly have Pheo. If your 24 hour urine is high but catechisms frac. Free plasma is normal?
ReplyDeleteDear Angela,
ReplyDeletePlease clarify exactly what are measured in the urine and plasma?
Dr. Pheo
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ReplyDeleteDo you know if a pheo specialist in TN?
ReplyDeleteDear Unknown,
ReplyDeleteYou can try doctors at Vanderbilt.
Dr. Pheo
I am so feeling overwhelmed. My 27 year old son was just diagnosed with Pheo - he has 2 masses bilaterally on each adrenal gland in addition to 3 masses in his retroperitoneum together with enlarged lymph nodes. He was admitted to the ER with a BP of 219/153. The endo there said this was very rare. After 2 weeks, we finally found out that Mayo will see him (FL). We are counting down - 1 more week until his appointment. Do you have any words of advise as we prepare for this appointment? Thank you.
ReplyDeleteHis 24 hr urine test was 9157 mcg
ReplyDeleteHello Dr.
ReplyDeleteI have been having left side flank pain for about 4 months, anxiety/panic attacks, severe night sweats and heat flashes, and have been extremely tired, having naps after work (age 28) before going to bed at 10PM.
I have had a 24 hour urine test which the results were:
Volume: 700
Epinepherine: 32 of 100nmol/d
Norepinepherine: 532 of 500nmol/d
Dopamine: 2604 of 2600nmol/d
Im not sure what these results indicate, but based on my own personal research, I am suspecting a pheo. do you have any suggestions? I am waiting on a consult for internal medicine.
Thanks!!
Hi Dr Pheo!!!
ReplyDeleteMy husband had his first adrenal gland removed when diagnosed with pheo. Fast forward to today 20+ years later he is experiencing severe headaches that wont go away, high blood pressure border lining hypertension and was put on medication, which are not working. Basically everything he experienced before. We are waiting for blood work to comeback. What do you think the chances of him having pheo AGAIN in the second adrenal gland are?
Dear Kelly,
DeleteThe chance is substantial indeed. I assume he had the adrenal surgery as a rather young man, so he probably has a genetic predisposition to develop pheo.
Dr. Pheo
Hi Dr Pheo:
ReplyDeleteI am unsure if I have this disease but I believe I have some symptoms. Since about June, it all started with what felt like a terrible UTI - I took the antibiotics and then things went really south. I keep having severe fluctuations in my BP, my norm is 120/80 but, sometimes it can be 108/60 or 160/104. Before it strikes at the higher number, it will feel like an impending doom and no matter what I can’t shake it. I have localized excessive sweating in my hands and feet, plus my hands get really red and hot during this episode. I have floaters, I feel nauseous constantly, terrible headaches that don’t go away with OTC medications. At the same time this all became a problem, I had these weird menstruation issues. Prolonged bleeding, due to what my obgyn believes is dilated blood vessels in my pelvis, which were never there before. Most of the time when I gave these episodes, I feel like I am going to pass out. I had my first panic attack days ago and it started with the feeling of doom and nausea. I have had all the regular blood tests that for the most part come back normal— with the exception of fluctuations in my glucose and fluctuations in liver enzymes. I’ve seen a GI doctor and I had testing in my gallbladder due to the stomachaches & nausea. All of that was normal. Recently I did have a d-dimer positive result but no blood clots. I just need help, my life has been turned upside down.
Dear Natascha,
ReplyDeleteI agree that the symptoms suggest pheo. You can do a simple test called "plasma metanephrines" to see if the markers are elevated.
Dr. Pheo
Thank you, Dr. Pheo. Do you know of any specialists in Omaha, NE?
ReplyDeleteDear Natascha,
DeleteI am not aware of a pheo specialist there but you can try Univ of Nebraska medical center.
Dr. Pheo